All I know is I was promised that if Trump won in 2024 democracy was over and we would never have to deal with this shit again... I'm starting to think that was fake news...
I think the Republican party is going to prefer Vance over Trump now that they got slaughtered over the war. It's going to be Biden v Kamala all over again. If he tried the party would force him out because they have better options.
I also wonder if a third term is a bridge too far. IMO, Israel, the Iran thing, and global reset is way worse. Also, they can't allow the Democrats to be right correct.
I agree, I trust no party, I just pick the lesser evil. Better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't know. Life is a shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.
In addition to not supporting either evil wing of the warhawk UniParty, there are many more options if you can get your brainwashed head out of your ass to see.
My last shred of belief that the democratic process is allowed to work in federal politics is gone. My new strategy is to vote for the guys who aren't in power during every election, so at least there's a chance of bringing in some instability and breaking the continuity that gets entrenched and ever more corrupt as a party gets comfortable with its perks. So in that sense, I think the US election results are the best outcome that could be had, given the apparatus of American (and Western) 'democracy'.
Will you really do that if the economy is ever good again? You won't vote for a politician that does a good job? Like when FDR fixed Hoovers depression? Are you just coping now actually?
I also protest vote for "loosers" for fun and to boost them. They're never perfect, like the rigged system and corrupt "leaders" who do get (s)elected. But maybe, just maybe, one day one of them will punch through.
I don't see much meaningful. There was a blue shift, which was to be expected - especially after trump poking Iran, and fuel prices spiking. Of course we won't see any real justice with regards to epstein files, and the democrats won't end up doing any of the stuff they promise - blaming trump for getting in the way, and trump will blame democrats for the shitshow unfolding the next 2 years. You'll see the same stupid outrage bait online focusing on DEI, race, homos, and trannies so it shifts our focus from what they're really doing to grift us all. It's the same flip-flop we've seen cycle through the years. Nothing fundamental has changed.
At the end of the day it's just divided government. In theory each will block the other party's program. Maybe that's a good thing. Of course, uniparty priorities will not be slowed. But I don't think this is as scary as some people think it will be.
What is more scary is the 2028 presidential election where we are much less likely to get a divided government. We have a little less than 3 years before full blown communism, unless Republicans can fully ditch zionism and become electable again.
The best thing that could happen is the dems impeach Trump, and we get Vance. Who is less zionist, and it creates a new set of priorities for the party. Then Vance wins 2028 as an incumbent. Those are narrow odds though.
Those wedge issues are distractions, and fuel for the fools who think their votes affect anything of substance.
We're never allowed to vote important things - like going to war, raising the debt, healthcare, education, Epstein class, etc.
Of course, uniparty priorities will not be slowed.
That's what demands our focus.
But I don't think this is as scary as some people think it will be.
Perhaps. We can hope. CommunAIsm is coming on strong and fast.
dems impeach Trump
Trump will never actually be held accountable. At best he'll retire with a sore ass from so many sycophants kissing it.
Impeachments are just slow-moving technical boring political theater for wonks.
Who is less zionist
Israel is just a branch of the FIC, MIC, and TIC. Oddly we're now allowed to criticize Zionism - on purpose. There's no denying the evil of the Greater Israel Project, not to mention draconian Noahide Laws, but who is allowing/orchestrating their regional tyranny?
Vance is backed by the global Technocracy. The have giant killer robots. They may seem benign now, but I dread what may come.
At least Republicans no longer control the Hill. A lot of comments I am getting from others in person and online is that this election is a very positive move in a good direction, and makes people hopeful for the US and other countries.
Democrats can now work toward reversing some of the disastrous decisions of their predecessors and the Executive Branch.
A vote on ending the bombing of Iran is important at this stage. Reducing the cost of oil might be a result of that, which would result in the reduction of the cost of groceries.
Supporting Ukraine by renewing sanctions on Russia and sending military aid should be next, while also impeaching Hegseth.
Reducing the tariffs will also be important. US farmers sold $16 billion in soybeans to China before Trump was elected and thereafter sold no soybeans, while Russia took over that trade of soybeans to China. Trade with Canada and other countries should resume.
Democrats should re-open the Epstein case and use it as leverage against Trump when they pass bills that Trump will want to veto. They should also investigate the bribes taken by the Trump family.
AIPAC influence of Democrats will have to be challenged more often, while many Democrats have now beaten AIPAC candidates and must continue doing that in 2 years.
In short, Dems are now expected to do a lot more than they've done before to correct numerous problems created by Republicans. After that Democrats can revisit the Affordable Care Act, look into taxing offshore accounts, investigate insider trading, tax the wealthy, bring down the $40 trillion debt, create jobs the way Biden did with the infrastructure bill, etc. All of that so-called pinko liberal commie socialist response to the extreme income inequality needs to be considered even if it won't happen. Corruption should be challenged in US politics, the way it used to be.
I don't know if they can end it. Trump is the commander in chief. Congress has power of the purse. But using it would require defunding the entire military. They could also reduce any war powers he's invoking. But he may not actually be depending on those anyway. And if he were acting under specific authorized war powers, reducing them would require reducing the NDAA and Patriot Act, which are uniparty cornerstones. Very unlikely they'd do that. I think it would be hilarious if they did it. We should goad them to do it.
Corruption should be challenged in US politics, the way it used to be.
That was never effective as the propaganda would have us believe.
US farmers sold $16 billion in soybeans...
I wonder if that reset was part of the plan to feed North America more soy-based products and artificial foods. Great for the "health"care profits. They are 3D printing "meat" now that is passed off as real.
For me the most interesting thing would be results of investigations Dems hopefully would start. I wonder can they assign a Mueller-like figure with some purpose?
UPD ChatGPT says not really, Mueller was appointed by Deputy AG
An investigation will almost certainly happen. But unless they find something truly insane (That everyone agrees is insane, not just Democrats) nothing will really come of it.
They may try impeachment again but I doubt it would lead to anything and just waste time and money. They may go after his staff/cabinet but in the end Trump will just auto pen the pardons before he is done. JasonCarwell is correct, It's all preformative.
I agree with newJimmy as well, Iran for sure did him in. I don't really know anyone who approved of that war. Epstein wasn't handled well either... Promise to release all the files but only half come out.. I would love to know what they are hiding and who they are protecting.
I found an article on which investigations are currently planned, and they do plan to force full release of files:
Meanwhile, legislation related to the Epstein files—including some that could compel their full release—could be more likely to pass, though Trump has threatened to use his veto power against against legislation he disagrees with.
I don't really know anyone who approved of that war.
The SDS, Supranational Deep State - those above national politics. Banksters, BIS, FIC, MIC, TIC, international corporations, NGOs, think tanks, etc.
It was necessary for The Great Reset. As Simon Dixon keeps saying, the 2026 spring-summer-fall is the most life-changing event we've ever seen in our lifetimes - and few people are realizing it. Most things, including the British-made borders in the Middle East (soon to be called West Asia), have been more-or-less stable for 100 years. All that is changing and much of the maps and power centers will change. Trump has laid the foundations for the North American Technate like none other.
Log in
Iran + Epstein. Possibly the worst political betrayal of all time?
Worse than Woodrow Wilson?
Worse than Abraham Lincoln?
Worse than Maximilien Robespierre?
Worse than Nero?
Worse than Brutus?
All I know is I was promised that if Trump won in 2024 democracy was over and we would never have to deal with this shit again... I'm starting to think that was fake news...
But will he claim a third term?
I think the Republican party is going to prefer Vance over Trump now that they got slaughtered over the war. It's going to be Biden v Kamala all over again. If he tried the party would force him out because they have better options.
You may like what James Li said, backed by substantial rumours: https://goatmatrix.net/c/PoliticalAnalysis/8cbwafpVrm
I also wonder if a third term is a bridge too far. IMO, Israel, the Iran thing, and global reset is way worse. Also, they can't allow the Democrats to be
rightcorrect.Is that real the worst lie you're upset about right now?
It's all performative, political theater to distract and divide.
Makes no difference to the UniParty.
Meanwhile, what else is actually happening that matters?
I agree, I trust no party, I just pick the lesser evil. Better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't know. Life is a shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.
Why pick any evil?
Fuck both of them.
Don't support any.
Further - it's the entire system that is corrupt.
Resist the establishment.
That's where tyranny lies and lies and lies and lies...
Red and Blue are the only two options.
Bullshit.
In addition to not supporting either evil wing of the warhawk UniParty, there are many more options if you can get your brainwashed head out of your ass to see.
I hope this is a wakeup to politicians on how unpopular the Iran war and Epstein coverup has been. Not expecting any real changes though.
I was also hearing people voting blue because of corruption surrounding Trump's family getting sweetheart deals and insider trading.
My last shred of belief that the democratic process is allowed to work in federal politics is gone. My new strategy is to vote for the guys who aren't in power during every election, so at least there's a chance of bringing in some instability and breaking the continuity that gets entrenched and ever more corrupt as a party gets comfortable with its perks. So in that sense, I think the US election results are the best outcome that could be had, given the apparatus of American (and Western) 'democracy'.
Will you really do that if the economy is ever good again? You won't vote for a politician that does a good job? Like when FDR fixed Hoovers depression? Are you just coping now actually?
I'm probably coping tbh. Also, I'm Canadian, so I don't have a dog in your particular race when it comes to my vote.
Do you like trumps tariffs? has that hurt conservative-ish politicians in canada too?
Tariffs are just taxes politicians put on their own people - not on other nations. It's political theater for government theft.
Trump taxes his own people with "tariffs".
Then Carney "reciprocates" with taxing his own people with "tariffs".
Both nations suffer, but the governments make out like banksters - because they both serve banksters, not the people.
What Jason said.
Representative democracy is always a shit sandwich.
Direct democracy is better, but it's still not voluntaryism.
Not sure why you had any shreds in the first place.
Over 80 ways to rig the vote: https://Projex.Wiki/wiki/List_of_ways_to_rig_elections
I also protest vote for "loosers" for fun and to boost them. They're never perfect, like the rigged system and corrupt "leaders" who do get (s)elected. But maybe, just maybe, one day one of them will punch through.
I don't see much meaningful. There was a blue shift, which was to be expected - especially after trump poking Iran, and fuel prices spiking. Of course we won't see any real justice with regards to epstein files, and the democrats won't end up doing any of the stuff they promise - blaming trump for getting in the way, and trump will blame democrats for the shitshow unfolding the next 2 years. You'll see the same stupid outrage bait online focusing on DEI, race, homos, and trannies so it shifts our focus from what they're really doing to grift us all. It's the same flip-flop we've seen cycle through the years. Nothing fundamental has changed.
Trump was bringing out Nicki Minaj, that was DEI and probably hurt repubs too.
At the end of the day it's just divided government. In theory each will block the other party's program. Maybe that's a good thing. Of course, uniparty priorities will not be slowed. But I don't think this is as scary as some people think it will be.
What is more scary is the 2028 presidential election where we are much less likely to get a divided government. We have a little less than 3 years before full blown communism, unless Republicans can fully ditch zionism and become electable again.
The best thing that could happen is the dems impeach Trump, and we get Vance. Who is less zionist, and it creates a new set of priorities for the party. Then Vance wins 2028 as an incumbent. Those are narrow odds though.
Those wedge issues are distractions, and fuel for the fools who think their votes affect anything of substance.
We're never allowed to vote important things - like going to war, raising the debt, healthcare, education, Epstein class, etc.
That's what demands our focus.
Perhaps. We can hope. CommunAIsm is coming on strong and fast.
Trump will never actually be held accountable. At best he'll retire with a sore ass from so many sycophants kissing it.
Impeachments are just slow-moving technical boring political theater for wonks.
Israel is just a branch of the FIC, MIC, and TIC. Oddly we're now allowed to criticize Zionism - on purpose. There's no denying the evil of the Greater Israel Project, not to mention draconian Noahide Laws, but who is allowing/orchestrating their regional tyranny?
Vance is backed by the global Technocracy. The have giant killer robots. They may seem benign now, but I dread what may come.
Trump was impeached in 2019 and again in 2021. What would make you believe a third attempt would remove him from office?
Yeah you need 67 senators to remove him. Dems now have 56. Could 11 repubs join them and remove this pariah who wrecked everything?
No lol. We gotta wait two years for Aoc or Gavin.
fyi Vance is gay with Peter thiel who founded palantir an Israeli company.
At least Republicans no longer control the Hill. A lot of comments I am getting from others in person and online is that this election is a very positive move in a good direction, and makes people hopeful for the US and other countries.
Democrats can now work toward reversing some of the disastrous decisions of their predecessors and the Executive Branch.
A vote on ending the bombing of Iran is important at this stage. Reducing the cost of oil might be a result of that, which would result in the reduction of the cost of groceries.
Supporting Ukraine by renewing sanctions on Russia and sending military aid should be next, while also impeaching Hegseth.
Reducing the tariffs will also be important. US farmers sold $16 billion in soybeans to China before Trump was elected and thereafter sold no soybeans, while Russia took over that trade of soybeans to China. Trade with Canada and other countries should resume.
Democrats should re-open the Epstein case and use it as leverage against Trump when they pass bills that Trump will want to veto. They should also investigate the bribes taken by the Trump family.
AIPAC influence of Democrats will have to be challenged more often, while many Democrats have now beaten AIPAC candidates and must continue doing that in 2 years.
In short, Dems are now expected to do a lot more than they've done before to correct numerous problems created by Republicans. After that Democrats can revisit the Affordable Care Act, look into taxing offshore accounts, investigate insider trading, tax the wealthy, bring down the $40 trillion debt, create jobs the way Biden did with the infrastructure bill, etc. All of that so-called pinko liberal commie socialist response to the extreme income inequality needs to be considered even if it won't happen. Corruption should be challenged in US politics, the way it used to be.
I don't know if they can end it. Trump is the commander in chief. Congress has power of the purse. But using it would require defunding the entire military. They could also reduce any war powers he's invoking. But he may not actually be depending on those anyway. And if he were acting under specific authorized war powers, reducing them would require reducing the NDAA and Patriot Act, which are uniparty cornerstones. Very unlikely they'd do that. I think it would be hilarious if they did it. We should goad them to do it.
That was never effective as the propaganda would have us believe.
I wonder if that reset was part of the plan to feed North America more soy-based products and artificial foods. Great for the "health"care profits. They are 3D printing "meat" now that is passed off as real.
For me the most interesting thing would be results of investigations Dems hopefully would start. I wonder can they assign a Mueller-like figure with some purpose?
UPD ChatGPT says not really, Mueller was appointed by Deputy AG
An investigation will almost certainly happen. But unless they find something truly insane (That everyone agrees is insane, not just Democrats) nothing will really come of it.
They may try impeachment again but I doubt it would lead to anything and just waste time and money. They may go after his staff/cabinet but in the end Trump will just auto pen the pardons before he is done. JasonCarwell is correct, It's all preformative.
I agree with newJimmy as well, Iran for sure did him in. I don't really know anyone who approved of that war. Epstein wasn't handled well either... Promise to release all the files but only half come out.. I would love to know what they are hiding and who they are protecting.
I found an article on which investigations are currently planned, and they do plan to force full release of files:
https://goatmatrix.net/c/Politics/A3E89fErAs
Nothing on Iran in this article though ...
The SDS, Supranational Deep State - those above national politics. Banksters, BIS, FIC, MIC, TIC, international corporations, NGOs, think tanks, etc.
It was necessary for The Great Reset. As Simon Dixon keeps saying, the 2026 spring-summer-fall is the most life-changing event we've ever seen in our lifetimes - and few people are realizing it. Most things, including the British-made borders in the Middle East (soon to be called West Asia), have been more-or-less stable for 100 years. All that is changing and much of the maps and power centers will change. Trump has laid the foundations for the North American Technate like none other.
Interesting - but effective?
Effective for who?
Well, it's not me who should evaluate effectiveness of American politicians, also "effective" in achievement of which aims?
By "interesting" I meant some information which is currently hidden would be disclosed, and that is usually an objectively good thing.
Political theater is to divide and distract from more important things.